they are not -- they do not have the feeling about president obama. >>chris: so, not a big defeat for president obama? >> of course it is. he went around the country and on wednesday night he had a meltdown in the rose garden because the senators actually voted the way they felt was the right way to vote is there a serious public policy argument for background checks --. >> the farrents of newtown want something done. >> i have the greatest empathy for the parents but they never made a public policy argument for the bill. >> the policy argument is so clear we should not have easy access to guns people who have criminal records or people with any kind record or who are many tale comp at this . should not be allowed to get it. we see in newtown but each day in the streets of washington, dc, chicago, new york, a slaughter because we will not do anything. >> we have the tightest gun control legislation. >> the guns come from places with lax gun control legislation. >>chris: i will bring you into another discussion but there was talk this week we my see so